The Louis Pasteur of Junkiedom ([info]calamityjon) wrote,
@ 2008-05-14 08:36:00
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Along these lines, another phrase I sort of dearly love is when guys qualify any compliment they give another guy by adding that they're "comfortable with" or "confident in" their sexuality, or the even more ludicrous "...with their masculinity1"

Which is ridiculous, because if the guy really were comfortable with or confident in his sexual identity, he wouldn't feel the need to qualify his sentiments. If you say "Well, Tim is looking really good today" and follow it with a chaser of "You know, I can compliment another guy because I'm confident in my masculinity," then what you are saying is "I AM NOT GAY, OKAY? PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT." That is sort of the opposite of being comfortable or confident. It is sort of being the opposite things. Not being the opposite things? Not in this instance, is what.2

I also think of this whenever some guy discounts his ability to acknowledge masculine beauty. "I guess George Clooney is good-looking. I wouldn't know. My girlfriend thinks he is, I guess she knows what she's talking about." Which is crazy BS, of course, because first off it seems to imply that you just can't add, and somehow wouldn't understand that women would find soft blue eyes, a rugged jawline and swaggering confidence3 attractive - and therefore you were raised in a sensory dep tank - but also because guys comment on other guys' attractiveness all the time. Whenever a guy gives another guy shit about wearing open-toed sandals and socks4, or about needing a haircut, or dressing like a putz, that guy is saying "Your level of attractiveness is insufficient, go increase it." He's creating a standard of masculine beauty to which he insists other men must adhere. He is making the effort to make the men in his social circle more pretty to him.5 6

Anyway, where I was going with this is: I bet Brad Pitt has terrific balls. Just fantastic. Soft, smooth-shaven, warm and pillowy. You could rest your cheek against them and sleep for hours, cooling your fevered brow on the marble slab of his abdomen. I bet they pulse, gently, but reassuringly, like life-giving stones and swirling waters. Probably smell like blueberries. Bet they have good heft, too, probably feel good in your hand. This is what I think of Brad Pitt's balls, and I can say that because I'm confident in my masculinity.7

How about you? How do you picture Brad Pitt's balls? What are some of your favorite phrases, quisling modifiers of wounded egos or otherwise? I had one more but I got distracted by something and forgot about it. I don't even know.8


1Which is ludicrous because masculinity and homosexuality are not mutually exclusive, you know, because come on, Rock Hudson. And I know you're thinking 'David Hyde Pierce,' but I say again, ROCK HUDSON.

2 Late Addition footnote: Oh yeah, and it also implies that homosexuality is necessarily a negative condition, which is dumb, I forgot to mention that ...

3 Swooooooon.

4 PS: That really is totally unacceptable, even ironically. AND post-ironically. Knock it off.

5 Just off the top of my head, seems to be an obvious social and biological impetus to this sort of behavior. You assume that pack primate alpha males would want not only their own genetic material to pass on, but also those of their immediate clan, particularly as the individual benefits from the overall attractiveness of having a "better looking crew." Or if you look at sociological anthropology from the individual view, then it speaks well to the human capacity to extrapolate our sense of self to the level of the group identity. Or maybe casual homosexuality was the norm in primate societies, I dunno, I'm not Calamity Desmond Morris here.

6 What the hell, another footnote so soon after the last? Sorry, I had to get in on this; the reverse of the above-described male is - and tell me if you know anyone like this - has got to be the girl who, the second she is in the company of any homosexual male, starts to dish on handsome men, even if the homosexual man in question is not the kind to dish or gossip. Her identifying phrase is "Oh, you'll appreciate this," and then mention is made of Johnny Depp. This is the woman who has bought into the idea that straight men cannot acknowledge beauty in another man, and also she's kind of a pain in the ass. Homos*, back me up here.

* And birds.

7 Inform Carthage.

8 HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW, MANNING??


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[info]elyssadc
2008-05-14 03:49 pm UTC (link)
I think I just fell in love with you.

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[info]superdaintykate
2008-05-14 06:38 pm UTC (link)
You won't be the last...

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(no subject) - [info]calamityjon, 2008-05-14 07:38 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]glindanorth
2008-05-14 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Silly man, George Clooney has big brown eyes.

And now, thanks to you, I will be thinking about Brad Pitt's warm, pillowy, blueberry scented balls all damn day. And I don't even like him all that much.

Damn you!

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[info]calamityjon
2008-05-14 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Wassamatta, you don't like blueberries?

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[info]blackbyrd2
2008-05-14 03:51 pm UTC (link)
Never let it be said that I'm not confident in my masculinity, sexuality and hetero-ness, but I found your description of Brad Pitt's balls disturbing. It's that whole 'shaved' business.
On the other hand, while I would do George Clooney in a hot flash, Robert Downey Jr (as Tony Stark) is a close second. Pitt can go play with his shaven, hefty, blueberry scented balls for all I care. Unless he's bringing Angelina with him. Then he can stay.

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[info]ms_issicran
2008-05-14 06:28 pm UTC (link)
O-o

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[info]annemjw
2008-05-14 03:51 pm UTC (link)
As a bird, I must say YES, I don't like those girls. I also have a tendency to dislike the opposite as well, i.e. the gay man who assumes that as a woman I am comfortable discussing the relative attractiveness of various men in (or out of) the room with them, which is especially annoying if I barely know said gay male.

I must say, I don't believe I had ever pictured Brad Pitt's balls before now. I don't think I'm being very imaginative about it though, I am just picturing, well, testicles. Obviously I need higher standards.

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[info]calamityjon
2008-05-14 04:02 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, let's not let Brad Pitt's balls down.

God, this page is going to be GREAT in Google...

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(no subject) - [info]annemjw, 2008-05-14 04:09 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]counterfeitfake, 2008-05-14 05:36 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]blackbyrd2, 2008-05-14 05:48 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]calamityjon, 2008-05-14 07:39 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]catcom, 2008-05-14 10:53 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]blackbyrd2
2008-05-14 04:03 pm UTC (link)
And actually, in direct response to your question; It's not the knee-jerk responses which bother me, it's the misuse and mangling of such;

"I could care less." which is intended to indicate that they don't care, when in fact the appropriate phrase would be "I couldn't care less."
(As one example)

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[info]tekende
2008-05-14 07:36 pm UTC (link)
YES. I HATE that.

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(no subject) - [info]easyalchemy, 2008-05-14 08:52 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]mckennl, 2008-05-14 09:22 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]ludickid
2008-05-14 04:08 pm UTC (link)
Dear Jon,

You are gay. And it's okay for me to say this, because I am confident in your homosexuality.

Love,
Leonard

P.S. Five things:

1. Saying something and then saying you are not saying that thing, you are just saying

2. I am not a racist but

3. People who are afraid to say something because it aligns them ideologically with people who believe other things that they don't agree with*

4. People who say something egregious and awful and then say "Am I right?", forcing you to either make an ugly scene or acquiesce to their horribility

5. "You're funny"

*: I do this all the time

Edited at 2008-05-14 04:09 pm UTC

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[info]adam_0oo
2008-05-14 04:30 pm UTC (link)
So many friends (yay north jersey) say 2, and it just skeeves me out, because I know what is coming.

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(no subject) - [info]calamityjon, 2008-05-14 07:39 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]zantimisfit
2008-05-14 04:14 pm UTC (link)
"Just kidding." Because you know they're really not.

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[info]zantimisfit
2008-05-14 04:17 pm UTC (link)
oh, and also, "I don't mean to be rude..." Which means in like 2 seconds this person is going to get rude.

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[info]clockworkmonkey
2008-05-14 04:20 pm UTC (link)
"You've got to admit..."

No, you keep trying to convince me, and I'll decide if I've got to admit it or not.

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[info]bobo_dreams
2008-05-14 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Jon...yeah...I'm with [info]elyssadc...I think I just fell in love with you, too.

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I try to catch myself when this slips in
[info]tawdryjones
2008-05-14 04:56 pm UTC (link)
"Do you know what I mean?", because A.) If I don't, you'd see my confused look*, B.) If I don't, trust that I'll ask for clarification, C.) What is this, a test? Will there be a quiz later?, D.) You're just filling air with words, aren't you?

*presupposing I don't always look confused.

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[info]oilyrags
2008-05-14 05:11 pm UTC (link)
What's this about Brad Pitt's bowels?

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[info]mckennl
2008-05-14 05:11 pm UTC (link)
I had a girlfriend who was always accusing other butches of not being "confident in their masculinity." She was hot.

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[info]calamityjon
2008-05-14 07:40 pm UTC (link)
HAHAHA!

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[info]roninspoon
2008-05-14 05:13 pm UTC (link)
Virtually any sentence that is long the lines of "XXXX... but."

I'm not a racist, but...

I don't think you're gay, but...

That's funny, but...

I normally wouldn't shoot you in the face, but...

I'd put out that kerosene fire on your head, but...



Seriously. Why do that? In nearly every instance, it's a modifier that suggests you're attempting to deflect the perception of your audience. Except, you're actually doing exactly what the audience is thinking. And it never works. "Listen, I'm not an anit-semite, but... shouldn't all those Jews just die for killing Jesus? I mean, eye for an eye is their law afterall."

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[info]jodycody
2008-05-14 05:37 pm UTC (link)
I pretty much remember the first time I'd seen Brad Pitt.

It was in Cool World. He was really hot in that...in a weird Stray Cats pseudo-50s way.
Very striking. Couldn't stop admiring his chiseled features.

But I'd never thought of his balls. Until today.

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[info]counterfeitfake
2008-05-14 05:42 pm UTC (link)
I'm finding myself more and more a fan of doing away with qualification in my speech. "In my opinion" has ALWAYS been retarded to me, but now pretty much any "X, but Y"... no. How about "X."

I am a fan however of the phrase "I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck."

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[info]fiberpunk
2008-05-14 05:56 pm UTC (link)
I think the "comfortable with my masculinity" bit is just one of those attempts to let the repetition of a familiar joke stand in for an actual sense of humor; you mentioned something similar in the past post about "electric boogaloo."

I think it's odd how "to be frank" or "to be honest with you" are usually signals that people are planning to reduce the level of frankness and honesty in the discussion.

And I think I've previously mentioned that anybody who starts a sentence on the Internet with, "Umm..." is preparing to engage in some douchebaggery.

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[info]fiberpunk
2008-05-14 05:58 pm UTC (link)
What you can get from the above comment: I like to write "I think," probably just so that I can justify writing this crap instead of working on my project. "True, it's six weeks late. But I've been busy thinking..."

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(no subject) - [info]calamityjon, 2008-05-14 07:40 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]kinokofry
2008-05-14 06:09 pm UTC (link)
I... I want to answer your other questions but all I can think of now is leaning my head against Brad Pitt's balls. And now I'm off to bed!

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[info]serizawa3000
2008-05-14 06:36 pm UTC (link)
Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure
They're the balls that I like best
My balls are always bouncing
To the left and to the right
It's my belief that my big balls
Should be held every night

Sorry. Couldn't resist

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[info]brahman_atman
2008-05-14 07:09 pm UTC (link)
A physical variation of your post, Jon, is the tendency among men to slap each others' backs, with varying degrees of force, when they hug. As our good pal Jared puts it, the message is that "I'm hugging you, but I'm also hitting you." Many men are uncomfortable with the idea of hugging each other, perhaps because they're worried about being perceived as "ghey" or they're worried that they might be gayomigoddudestophuggingmeitfeelstoogood.

See also "Hug it out, bitches."

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[info]brahman_atman
2008-05-14 07:11 pm UTC (link)
Re: Brad Pitt's gonads.

I would juggle them in my hands like those stainless steel relaxation balls that come in little red Chinese-looking boxes.

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(no subject) - [info]mkb_technologie, 2008-05-14 07:41 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]calamityjon, 2008-05-14 07:45 pm UTC (Expand)
maybe I am being more surly about this than I need to
[info]hipsterdetritus
2008-05-14 07:18 pm UTC (link)
I know this ain't as sociologically tangled and troublesome as "I am totally not a gay-type but that dude is hot"-type sentiments, but it grates on me when people use the phrase "Am I the only one who..." to denote how their opinion may not be the most popular one in the world. And 90% of the time these people are the only ones who don't like something. It smacks of pseudo-victim grandstanding, calling attention to what a spectacularly singular individual they are because they don't follow the sheeple, maaaan! Like he's the only one who has the Rowdy Roddy Piper Ray-Bans and when he puts them on it turns out that a pop music act or motion picture or video game is not very good! You know what? Of course you are not the only person to think Pop Culture Artifact [x] sucks. You know how I know that? Because I like Pop Culture Artifact [x] a lot and have to read stupid attacks on it just like yours all the time.

I really want to respond to the next messageboard/comment thread post I see using this phrase with the retort "I'm sorry, but you are. You will therefore die alone and unloved. Make the best of your remaining years in solitude."

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Re: maybe I am being more surly about this than I need to
[info]calamityjon
2008-05-14 07:41 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure I say that myself, but I get your sentiment. I can't believe how often I see "Am I the only person who hates Family Guy?" Because, you know, no, not by about two hundred million other people on the internet...

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Re: maybe I am being more surly about this than I need to - [info]superlib, 2008-05-14 07:42 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]schtune
2008-05-14 07:57 pm UTC (link)
You really need to see someone, maybe a doctor, about your footnotes.

To answer your question: "It's the principle of the thing." If someone says this, they are upset about something only because they feel they have a right to be upset. They can support their anger or irritation with nothing else.

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[info]corrigami
2008-05-14 09:35 pm UTC (link)
NEEDLESS TO SAY

Could there be a more useless saying?

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[info]mrbloober
2008-05-14 10:43 pm UTC (link)
How about if a guys is like, "Man, Clive Owen is hot. I'd do 'im," but the "I'd do 'im" is obviously sarcastic, because the speaker is obviously a straight male? Would that be in the same vein? Because really, all they are saying is "I'd do him HAHA NOT REALLY I WOULDN'T" but they just don't say the last part.

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[info]turkishb
2008-05-15 12:49 am UTC (link)
i really wish i had more to contribute than "this post was hilarious, as yours always are, thanks"

but that's what i've got!

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